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Bulma Brief ([personal profile] capsuleprincess) wrote2011-06-06 02:44 pm
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[Objectively speaking, Bulma is sure she has been in worse situations than what being stuck in Luceti means. But she's also sure she has been in better situations than this. It's sincerely irritating, the lack of technology around makes it hard for her to do... Anything basically. They can't really expect her to just sit and do nothing, right? But either way, there has to be a way to get materials to build some proper technology, what about those teleporters? They weren't brought from nowhere, where they?

And what's up with that draft? Sending people to war, even people who can't fight at all? What kind of retarded military Commander thinks such a thing? She could have understood it if they sent soldiers, or at least adult men, but from the looks of it they even sent children and helpless people. Makes her wonder what will happen if she has enough bad luck to be sent there without Goku around. If only she could build her machines, or find a way out of there...

Bulma has been rolling and pulling at her hair for awhile, in the room she has designated as her laboratory at the house she claimed as her own with Goku, when she finally sends a message. She's not really sure if anyone will answer, or if they will even be able to, but she supposes that there's nothing to lose after all.]


Probably this question has been asked thousands of times but, could anyone tell me what attempts have been made to get through the barrier that surrounds the designated area of Luceti? I mean, specific attempts, not just "everything we could", I'm new here so I can't know what "everything" exactly means. And has anyone attempted to study the barrier to see how it works or if it could be reproduced?

... And actually, could anyone explain what's up with the technology in this place? It goes from rural prehistoric when looking at the appliances at the houses, to modern technology with those journals and the teleporters or that battle dome.

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[identity profile] histruename.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I know punching the crap out of it doesn't work.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[The way that's said makes her giggle a bit despite herself.]

I expected that much. I take that normally punching to break things works easily for you then?

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[identity profile] histruename.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's glad his sense of humor isn't lost on her. He actually meant it to be kind of funny.]

Usually, yeah. [He waves his huge stone hand in front of the camera.] Not much can get past this baby.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[He was funny, or at least she found him so. And it was a valid answer, humor and ongoing conversation? She's totally into that.

And that is a huge stone hand, good sir.]


It certainly looks like a strong and healthy baby. What kind of things can get past it? If you have ever encountered any besides the barrier, that is.

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[identity profile] histruename.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Depends how big it is. I mean, we're talking monsters the size of houses. Stuff like this? Usually a piece of cake.
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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
The size of houses? Do you face creatures like that often in your world?

[She's both worried and amused, it's a hard balance but it's there. Probably because giant monsters make her think of the giant apes Saiyans transform into and that makes her think of Goku's power even in his normal size.]

So basically any material doesn't stand much of a chance against you. I suppose you won't be able to give me a list of the materials found in your planet, right?

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[identity profile] histruename.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Not usually, but every now and then they turn up. Maybe once a decade. But nah, I'm no scientist. I don't know what half the stuff I hit even is.

[There are times when Hellboy acts dumber than he is. This's one of those times.]

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[He's a good actor, then again with very few exceptions Bulma is used to strong guys who don't care about what half the stuff they hit is.]

That's a pity, if we could create a database of the materials found in each of our planets, and determine those materials' strength and other parameters, maybe we could use it to get an idea of what the barrier actually is.

Do you mind if I ask you how long have you been here?

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[identity profile] histruename.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Little less than a month. Guess I'm still one of the new guys.

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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-06 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
[Robert's voice is tired, dull and sad (probably due to events that haven't happened yet ICly), but this question pings him enough to talk to the strange person.]

There appears to be little l-logical explanation for the... s-state of the technology here.

Most n-notably, the Battle Dome's clinic only c-contains "twenty-first century" medical t-technology.

[It may be evident from the disgust creeping into Robert's tone that this has been a problem more than once.]

[Voice] - I feel like I'm making a collection with you...

[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
[How rude, Robert. Strange person, he's the one from an utopic world where any kind of violence is impossible to understand.]

Uhm, the twenty-first century is ages in the future for me, but I know for a fact that most of the technology here is, at the best case, outdated in my planet. The teleporters are the thing that approaches most, but they are still a way to go, same with the battle dome.

[She notices that disgust and she can't help to match it. Right now she feels that it would have been better to have no technology at all rather than this "yes but no" they have. Dealing with no technology is easier than dealing with old technology after all.]

So, what's the explanation? Or is it just a scientific way to cap our technological capacities? I read that there's a power cap of sorts that makes people only around half as strong as they would normally be.

[And Goku still feels monstrous, she doesn't want to know how he must be outside of the barrier.]
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[Voice] - A collection? o/`

[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-06 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
["Strange" in the sense of "haven't talked to before", mostly. And Robert knows he qualifies as strange by most Lucetian standards, by this point.]

T-time periods seem to be... r-rather inconsequential h-here. It s-seems that different multiversions have... d-different standards for t-technological growth and c-culture relative to their i-individual time frames...

... Most of the technology here is... o-outdated for me as well, though the t-teleporters would d-defy physics.

[Robert's tone is a bit helpless at the next part.] Like a-anything else they do, there is no r-real explanation. Presumably they... might have ch-chose technology that the majority of L-Lucetians would... i-identify with. C-Considering where m-most of us come from...

... But I t-truly do not know, other than that... J-just that most advanced mechanisms here are difficult to c-construct due to a lack of r-resources.

[He exhales shakily. This is giving him something to focus on, but nothing can obliterate the pain of the last few days...]

[Voice] - 3 out of 6 of my chars are talking to Robert right now xD

[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I see... I suppose that then if for you the technology there is from the twenty first century, the technology level you would expect from my world would be minimal, then. It's a bit amusing.

[She giggles.]

We don't use teleporters in my world, but I know they can be done. Though I agree that they defy physics. But so do time machines or watches that reduce your size down to the same size of a toy.

[Bulma hums as he continues. She is noticing that he seems to have problems with talking, but she can't know why. She could ask but it seems rude, normally she doesn't have many problems with being rude but she's still settling down and doesn't want to create a negative image. So for now she lets it slip, though she will inquiry if she feels it's getting too noticeable to be ignored.]

When you say "where most of us come from", do you refer to a planet with human habitants? I've noticed that most of the people here have the same appearance as humans, but from experience I know it doesn't mean we all come from similar planets or even alternative versions of the same planet.
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[Voice] - oh pfft I actually had to look that up to realize

[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-08 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
W-Well, at this point I have... abandoned my p-prior misconceptions of how the t-time of d-different multiversions relates to my own...

M-most places are very different from Terra. For e-example, there are p-paranormal elements in L-Luceti - and many other worlds - that d-do not exist in my own multiverse at all.

... Time machines...? Size manipulation devices...? [Now those are things Terra does not have - again, because of the fact they defy conventional physics.

And Robert will explain if asked, though he'll be embarrassed and sad most likely... that won't stop him from giving a coherent explanation, though. Not much would, really.]


Well, m-most Lucetians seem to be Homo sapiens of a s-sort, and many are from the s-same general cluster of pre-Terran multiversions - "Earth", they c-call it, usually...

... But you are r-right, there are people who c-come from outside of those p-parameters as well. Even a few h-hominid sapients... though I kn-know very little about that.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-26 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a logical stance, actually one can't even really think that time of different planets in the same universe relates from one planet to another. Specially seeing how some civilizations may have several calendars over the course of their history.

[She doubts the Namekians are counting years now continuing from the count of their old planet. But it may be possible, then again they are so pacific and rural that it's wouldn't be strange to be told that they are in their first century yet or whatever.]

Paranormal elements, you mean like ghosts and the like, right? There's none of those at your world then? Or is it just that their existence hasn't been proved nor denied yet?
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-06-27 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
[It's logical enough to Robert, anyway. Though in his current state - fretting constantly about the safety of his drafted friends - logic is harder to come by.]

Th-there are... none, as far as a-anybody is aware.

Though one cannot... prove a n-negative. [Still, he's strongly inclined to say that there isn't any, especially given the evidence of Luceti itself.]

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
So their existence hasn't been proved or denied. And there aren't even stories of anything like that happening? Even if they can't be proved true or not?

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[identity profile] whydidisaverick.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I can tell you with absolute certainty that just about anything physical won't work.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
[Well, that's something she expected, even she sometimes goes first for punching something when it's not working before checking with other ways.]

Physical action is always the first one to be taken, so it doesn't surprise me. Is that the only way of action that has been attempted?

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[identity profile] whydidisaverick.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I can tell this place has been here for years. And with the variety of people who are brought to the village, it can be assumed most direct methods have already been tried and tested. [He's ruling out that attacking the barrier with just about ANYTHING is going to work.]

But what I know for certain is physical. Magical powers are something that has also likely been tried. I say this because I have personally spoken to multiple people who have magical capabilities.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with that, even without gathering information it's pretty easy and logical to assume that anything aimed to attack the barrier has been tried and failed. But I had the hope that other ways had been used as well, or that some study about the barrier itself had been made.

I can't seem to find even a proper explanation of what it is. "Energy barrier" can mean many things after all.

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[identity profile] whydidisaverick.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if it helps I think the barrier is some sort of sphere. So of course digging or any other similar methods won't work.

I think the problem is that it's hard to tell what exactly it IS. Who's to say it's even an energy barrier? It could be some kind of cloaked material for all we know.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-06 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true, but if it's a cloaked material then there should be a system to proportionate breathable air to the area. Even with all the trees we have at the forest a completely closed area would end leading to lack of breathable air, it would take a long time with the trees here of course but it's still risky.

I lean towards the idea of an energy barrier because both in practice and theory they are the best ones for keeping a target trapped and not condemn it to asphyxia without having to take risks creating overtures for the air to go through.

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[identity profile] whydidisaverick.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that is correct if we were to work under the assumption that photosynthesis works in a similar fashion here as it would on Earth. Or that the material they've used couldn't somehow be capable of allowing oxygen through.

And that is one of the hassles of this place. It's hard to legitimately dispel or negate any theories because there is a lack of efficient evidence. We don't know who they are, what they're capable of. Things that could apply from our world could work differently here. Someone could say the Malnosso are really fat hamsters playing chess, and who could really argue it?

I'm not saying theorizing is a waste of time. I just don't want to rule anything out yet.

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[identity profile] curiousgenius.livejournal.com 2011-06-07 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's a material capable of allowing oxygen through, then a huge blast of air of enough power to surpass its capacity should be sufficient to break it, don't you think?

I don't think it's really a hassle, sure as a scientist I find annoying not be able to check my theories right away... But in the ancient times scientists weren't able to do so either. The first man who theorized that the moon moved around Earth wasn't able to back it with evidence and it wasn't until years later that said evidence was provided. Until then people could have been thinking that the moon and the stars were simply painted on a large blanket that covered the sky when night came.

Without evidence nor the means to check it no one could say it wasn't true.

So we're in a similar situation as the first man who claimed that the Moon moved around the Earth and that the Earth moved around the sun. We can form theories and try to prove them, but even if we can't maybe in the future someone will take our theories again and finally prove them.

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